Here I go again. Römer's study on sex ratios shows that for A. nijsseni, a temperature of 26ºC (79ºF) and pH 5.5 for the first 2 - 4 weeks will result in a 50/50 ratio of males to females. His graphs show that at a temperature of 23ºC (73.5ºF) only 15% will be males if raised in a pH of 4.5, 10% in pH 5.5, and about 5% in pH 6.5. At 26ºC, 60% will be males at pH 4.5, 50% at pH 5.5, and 45% at pH 6.5. At 29ºC (84ºF), 95% will be males at pH 4.5, 85% at pH 5.5, and 75% at pH 6.5. So you see, temperature is much more important than pH in determining sex ratios. The following is a translation of de Rham's (the discoverer) and Kullander's (the describer) 1982 paper (Apistogramma nijsseni Kullander un nouveau Cichlidé nain pour l'aquarium. Rev. fr. Aquariol. 9(4): 97-104). This is the first description of the male A. nijsseni. The original description used only females. It also describes the history behind when, where, how, and why this species got into the hobby, its biotope, and what fish were found living with it. Yes, ASG members can get copies of this paper and its translation from me. "An analysis of the place was made by a Peruvian limnologist, on 1/9/81 at 12:30, yielding the following results: Air temperature: 29ºC (84ºF) CO2: 0.9 ppm Water temperature 25ºC (77ºF) Total hardness: 7.5 (!!!!) Conductivity 14 µS/cm Temporary hardness: 0.03º pH: 5.6 (probably more acidic) Calcium: 0.5 ppm 02: 6.45 ppm Chlorine: 1.6 ppm" These values appear to match Römer's very closely, but remember water values vary with the seasons so these might not be the same as those during their normal breeding season. Here is an indication that total hardness isn't as important as carbonate hardness for blackwater fish. Compare the above values with those below, given by Linke & Staeck in their book: Date & time: 6/28/83, 5:00 pm Total hardness: <1º dH Air temperature: not given Carbonate (temporary) hardness: <1ºdH Water temperature: 27.5ºC (81.5ºF) Conductivity 3 µS/cm Things change with the seasons. Hope this helps. Mike Wise Douglas Dunlop wrote: > I have some Nijsseni which are my pride and joy. I have always kept them at > around 73 F with the temperature in the summer going up as high as 80F. I > usually induce them to spawn by creating the "rainy season" by doing a water > change with about 30% tank volume of 68 F water. I have recently read of > someone who bred them at significantly higher temperatures (84F). Does > anyone have any data from actual collection sites that would suggest which > water temperature is most appropriate? > Doug > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!