Hello Tim Nice pick up you made. I've always liked that fish. I've seen in pet shops in my area only once and there was only females so I didn't buy them. Stupid me. The price was right at about $ 5 each . The only thing at the time was that I didn't know was that I didn't need to buy a male. This is one of those species that will change sex. Females will become males when there are no males available. And become fertile males. As to keeping them. I would use a 20 long or 30 gallon tank that is fairly well planted and on the acidic side. A pH of 6.0 and soft water is what this fish likes. Place a large flower pot on one end of the tank on its side and several other flower pots for refuge for the female that isn't in the spawning pair. Condition them well on live foods and wait. The Tetra book on Dwarf Cichlids by Linke and Staeke has some good info also. Good luck with them. Wish I had them. John Wubbolt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!