Tsuh Yang, Pv. subocellatus is easy to tell from the Pv. taeniatus species-group by just looking at their body shapes. Pv. subocellatus has a shorter, deeper, body than a similarly sized Pv. taeniatus/callipterus/kribensis. Male Pv. subocellatus also have pale "spots" in the upper lobe of the caudal fin. Male Pv. taeniatus/callipterus/kribensis possess dark, usually haloed, spots in the upper caudal lobe. I've seen this name on the lists, too and am curious whether it's misnamed or a new taeniatus-group species from near Matadi, a city near the mouth of the Congo River. One of the fish you listed was the Giant Krib, Pv. sacrimontis/Pv. sp. aff. pulcher. After corresponding with Dr. Loiselle, I now accept his view that Pv. sacrimontis is a valid name under the provisions of the ICZN. I would encourage anyone who can get this Krib to try and breed it. It's biotope is being threatened in Nigeria. It requires streams with a canopy rain forest, which is rapidly disappearing in its native habitat. For breeders to get 50/50 sex ratios, this fish needs to be spawned at pH values below 6. Mike Wise Piabinha@aol.com wrote: > hi yall, > > i was at a wholesaler yesterday and went home with a pair of a fish i thought > was P. sub. Matadi black. when i got home, however, i checked their list and > i saw taht they also have a fish named P. taeniatus Matadi. now i'm wondering > what i have. what are ways to distinguish these 2 varieties? > > oh yeah, in addition to over a dozen different taeniatus, they had roloffi, > humilis, aff. pulcher, a couple of Hemichromis and such rarities as > Gobiocichla wonderi and Schwetzochromis. > > tsuh yang chen, nyc > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!