---Paul Evans <pm_evans@yahoo.com> wrote: Lastly, I have seen 'opal' borellii and a number of stores lately; even a big chain pet super store. However, they have all been about2" long and every single one has been male. Today I began wondering if they are being mass bred in Singapore and imported like Rams. I hope not. Probably not, but they are commonly imported from South America. They are one of the mainstays of the South American import trade. Even the more run of the mill wholesalers will buy the nice borellii's that are 2"+ or so. Unfortunatly as you have seen they are mostly males. most of the time shop owners will buy the large males because they beleive thats what will sell. I suggest you inform your dealer to get some of the smaller ones so you can have females as well. most times they will try to help you out if they know you'll buy them. I have access to wild dwarfs directly from the importer but i'll usually support a shops effort to bring in dwarfs by buying the whole tank of fish and sifting through it for goodies. many times the fish are mismarked and you can find some real gems. And of course at other times you may get some macmasteri labeled viejita. If they are real expensive then you should definatly make sure they are the real McCoy. Good luck David sanchez _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!