Fredrik, I checked my files and it was back in November P.Humilis Kasewe was discussed. The only contribution I can make is by repeating my previous contribution. I know of two members of the BCA who have bred Humilis Kasewe. Nick Fletcher our newsletter editor wrote recently in the NL: Six young were purchased which, turned out to be 1 male and 5 females they were housed in a 30inx15inx12in tank. He found them to be the shyest species he had known. 18 months down the road he removed two females to give to a friend. By doing so the tank was disrupted so he re-arranged the tank decor (pots etc and removed a substantial amount of java moss which was over grown). One week later he noticed in a half coconut shell one of the females with wrigglers. As a result of shedding two female Kasewe the tank turned around from nothing of interest to a sudden population explosion. Helen. Also previous response November >I tried these guys too, same result, gave up. Some of the best in Seattle >have....same results, beautiful fish. They were two mean to do several >times, seeing two color varieties destroy themselves was enough for me >(Lib. red, and Kasewe). The only person I know that I believe to have >spawned them is Kurt Zadnick....anyone have his email address??? Perhaps >we can get an answer from him. >Kathy ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!