Hello Vinny Thanks for your info. The Laetacara sp. that I picked up in Ottawa on Sunday ARE Laetacara sp. Bukelkopf from the Rio Araguia in southern Brazil. I enjoyed your web page espeçially the section on fish photography. I just starting to take photos of my fish so I can put together a slide presentation on Apistos and Dwarf Cichlids for my local Aq. Club (CNYAS) The info you list was great Thanks. John Wubbolt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!