Jason, I'll just add a little to Marco's expert report. A. sp. Erdfresser (Earth-eater) is known commercially in North America (when available) by Marco's trade name A. sp. Lyretail Purus and in the Far East as A. sp. Rondonia. All things considered, Marco's name is the most descriptive. Yes, all the care & breeding information (what little there is of it) in the Mayland & Bork book under A. pulchra applies to A. sp. Lyretail Purus. I tentatively consider it a member of the pertensis-group (slender body, sailfin in males, little sexual dimorphism, unpigmented anterior dorsal spines, and no scales on the breast area). It is also probably assignable to the pertensis-complex/sub-group (1st 3 dorsal spines separate from sailfin, lateral band ending in front of a caudal peduncle spot). I only tentatively put it in this group & complex because it has several features that are anomalous to them. A. sp. Lyretail Purus is the only species in the pertensis-group that has a darkened anterior dorsal fin and a completely scaled breast area. In addition it is the only pertensis-complex species with a lyretail. In many respects it reminds me of species in the steindachneri-group, especially the narrow lateral band and prominent caudal spot. The dark front edges of the flank scales make it look like it has chevron like vertical bars, typical in steindachneri-group species. These are probably the reasons Heiko Bleher mistakenly ID'd it at the Chicago ACA convention as A. steindachneri. It, however, doesn't have the enlarged flank patch that's diagnostic of steindachneri-group species. For Marco's edification, I'll translate what Dr. Kullander wrote about A. sp. Lyretail Purus in his description of A. hippolytae: "An additional specimen of an Apistogramma species was found together with the type series of A. hippolytae (Fig. 3). It is a male about 37.0 mm SL and belongs to an undescribed species of uncertain relationship. Superficially it is similar to A. pertensis yet is very different in having a dark anterior dorsal fin and an entirely scaled breast. The preoperculum is serrated. The caudal fin is squared off with obvious dorsal and ventral extensions. The coloration is fairly different from that of A. hippolytae particularly, for example, with regards to the [lack of a] flank patch." Since the holotype & part of the paratypes come from an igarapé of the Lago Manacapuru and the remainder of the paratypes come from the middle Rio Negro (Rio Urubaxi & Rio Daraá), we can extend the distribution of A. sp. Lyretail Purus to the left (north) bank of the Amazon. It may also occur with A. hippolytae in the Rio Tefé, but no one has reported this yet. Mike Wise Mayalauren@aol.com wrote: > Hi everyone, > Can anyone give me some info on this fish...all I know is that this is the > fish pictured as A. pulchra in the Bork & Mayland book. Does the text also > refer to this fish (i believe so???) > Thanks, > Jason > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!