<John wrote I would be playing with all of the harder to spawn like T.candidi and any Dicrossus species.> John I have spawned T.candidi in my tap water with added waters of the world.I managed to raise 50 fry out of that spawn.I have also spawned A.pertensis the same way.In a short time I will be getting some D.filamentosus,hopfuly it will work the same for them. Vern. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!