>Hi everyone, >anyone know where I can find a pic of this fish? I'm told it is something like >T. cinderella. >Also has anyone had any success breeding any teleocichla? > >Thanks, >Jason > > Hi Jason, I've been breeding Teleocichla proselytus "Rio Tapajos". I keep them in tap water (hardness ranges from 50-150ppm) with just a touch of blackwater extract (I like Tetra and I'm too lazy to screw around with the peat I have). There is also a nice "leaky" log in the tank that helps keep some color in the water. My pair is in a 20 with two sponge filters with vigorous water movement and lots of little pots and caves and PVC joint "caves". The pair I have is fairly agressive. The male is overall about twice as large as the female, and he beats on her until she fills with eggs (you can see the bright red eggs building up inside), and then as soon as she spawns the tables are turned, and she is the agressor. (I think they would mellow out in a larger tank, but since they spawn for me fairly regularly I am loathe to change anything. You know how it is.......). In my case, mom is a pretty good parent. I took the first eggs away from her and none of them made it (I have had no luck artificially hatching either these or Crenicichla compressiceps eggs). I have let her keep every other spawn, and she is a good mother up to a point. The problem is dad - he will eat the fry if he can, and several times I have come home to find them scattered in the tank, if I can find them at all. Obviously, I have taken measures to keep dad away, so as soon as they spawn I put a tank divider in and then I don't have any problems. I have had generally small spawns of around a dozen fry, which probably means that my conditions are not perfect. I currently have fry in a 55, where I'm hoping to pair some of them up eventually, and maybe I will give them a little more space and a power filter, as well as playing a bit with the pH (though Aqualog claims they need no special requirements for water, if I recall correctly). I think they are neat little fish, and if the above means you have the chance to get centrarchus, you should! Good luck, Lisa ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!