Thanks a lot Mike Guess I have to go get a good atlas. I was asking just to get some selective-info. I had planned to get some of these species but I am severely tank-space-limited right now so I have only room for a couple of them. It also seems necessary to ask since many exporters ship the same species under different names. Julio mentioned A. panduro (in another thread) being sold as A. sp. "Celeste" and I know of A. atahualpa being sold as A. sp. aff. macmasteri. Fredrik L. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!