Charles, Just because an apisto has an orange pectoral spot doesn't make it a member of the eunotus-complex. Other regani-group species, belonging to other complexes, also have this feature (A. gossei & A. geisleri for example). It takes more than a single feature to define a group or complex. Since your fish looks like A. sp. Lagoa Abuna, I assume that it has the narrow zigzag lateral band and abdominal streaks or smudges seen on this fish. These streaks tend to form diagonal stripes that run downward and toward the tail - similar but narrower than those seen on members of the caetei-complex. It also stays smaller than eunotus-complex species and the dorsal fin is not as high. The caudal fin is smaller and more oval shape, too. I haven't heard of A. sp. Blue. It could be anything. I certainly hope it isn't the same as A. sp. New Blue. New Blue is an apparent cross between a caetei- and a resticulosa-complex species first bred in Asia and now in Europe. Just what we need a dwarf "parrot cichlid". Mike Wise Charles Ray wrote: > >Yes, they are a member of the regani-group (resticulosa-complex). > > > >Mike > > > >Vern Wensley wrote: > > > >> Hi Mike and Marco. > >> A.sp.LAGUA-ABUNA is very,very close to the fish I have.Body shape and finage > >> are almost identical.Add red color to the caudal fin and blue spangling to > >> the cheeks and you would have my fish.The picture of the female is close > >> except for the black markings below the lateral line.When they were young I > >> had suspicions that they might be regani,because they had the regani > >> barring.You guys sure know your stuff,thanks for all the help! > >> I better mention that I am looking at the pics in the Aqualog. > >> Vern. > >> Ps.Are they a regani fish? > >> > Now I'm confused. I thought they were a eunotus-complex fish. The orange > spot at the base of the pectoral fin is supposedly characteristic. Both > the Aqualog picture and my A. sp. Rio Malome' have such a spot. And while > we're discussing eunotus-complex (or at least I am), does anyone on the > list have another name for a fish I bought as A. sp. "Blue" which appears > to be a eunotus-complex fish with nice metallic blue bodies in males, some > of which show lines of red scales on belly? Finally, I have second hand > report that A. sp. "Iquitos" is an elongate fish with a spade-shaped tail. > Checking A. agassizii in Aqualog shows A. agassizii "IQUITOS" on page 17. > The wholesaler said they had a lot of yellow which seems to verify it's an > agassizii. Mystery apparently solved. Fish should arrive on March 27th so > I'll verify. > > Charles Ray > Auburn, Alabama > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!