On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Mike & Diane Wise wrote: > conditions. A. hippolytae is found in the lower tributaries of the Rio Negro, > Igarapés entering into Lago (Lake) Manacapuru on the Rio Solimões west of > Manaus, and in the Rio Tefé. These are blackwater biotopes. A. hippolytae can > live in more normal water conditions, but shows best in peat stained water > with a pH <6, dGH<3º, and 0ºdKH. We can corroborate this story! We just got back from our trip to the Amazon and Rio Negro, and we got em! Kathy found them on our next-to-last day, dipnetting at a bathroom stop, a shallow bank with about 2" of water, on some tributary of the Negro. She also picked up a pertensis-like species at the same stop, and some fry. The one distinguishing feature that allowed even me to ID them in the holding bin (Kathy figured them out while she was netting them) was the very square flank patch (like A. steindachneri, but MUCH larger and darker and more square). Currently getting everyone settled in to their new homes here -- very low fish loss due to keeping them 1-2 fish per bag. Aside from the hippolytae, we have a colony of what might be eunotus, and a smattering of other random apistos, neat little tetras, pike cichlids, and cats. Expect articles, photos, and an updated "what's this fish?" site from both of us in the future. :) - Erik -- Erik Olson erik at thekrib dot com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!