Hi Vern, My filamentosus have spawned 3 times in conditions similar to yours, always on a horizontal anubias leaf. Unfortunately the eggs were eaten each time. Still trying to figure them out! Good luck! Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!