If my opinion is worth anything leave well alone. If you have a good pair they will indeed raise their own fry without human intervention. Helen >I also have a pair of wild rams.Do the f0 rams look after there eggs and fry >or would it be wise to pull the adults and raise them artificially? >Thanks Vern. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!