The rams I have are as you say simply outstanding!They are a bit nervous but they are starting to settle in.They are starting to display to each other which is a site to behold.Very colorful. For the D.filamentosus,will they spawn on any flat surface or do I need to put some broad-leafed plants in?The tank I have them in now -the bottom is covered in wood and one end is full of java moss with a cover of floating plants.The floating plants cut the light down and I have to use a flashlight to really see the beautiful colors on them.They are a cool little fish,I like them alot. Vern -----Original Message----- From: David Sanchez <barbax2@yahoo.com> To: apisto@admin.listbox.com <apisto@admin.listbox.com> Date: April 2, 1999 5:27 AM Subject: Re: D.filamentosus >Wild Rams are a forgotten treasure Vern. With the new >strains available today we have forgotten how simply >outstanding their wild bretheren really are! In my >experience they make excellent parents and you will be >in for a real treat as you see mama and papa take equal >work loads in raising the young. As I stated earlier, >the key factor is are you providing a proper >environment? For wild rams I would say that would be Ph >6.5 or less and very soft water. Another key factor >would be the temperture! they come from the "llanos" in >colombia and their shallow water is thus a bit warmer >then what we may be used to giving some of our >Apisto's. So vern the fish will not eat their spawn if >they have the right conditions. It sounds like you have >the right conditions for the rams but perhaps you may >want to drop the Ph for the checkerboard's. Best of >luck to you with your new aquisitions. > >=== > >David Sanchez >Casselberry, FL >http://www.mindspring.com/~barbax >barbax2@yahoo.com >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. >For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, >email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. >Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!