Wow, This was quick. 10 days ago I was trying to find some apistos. 7 days ago I got what appeared to be definitely a male and probably a female A. borelli. I put them in a newly setup 10 gallon in my kids' bedroom (that's where my wife wanted it) about 1/4 full of stones I had collected from a nearby creek. The tank doesn't have a filter. I don't know any of the water parameters except temperature, which is stays at about 78 deg. F. I have added water from a year round stagnant pool from the woods nearby. The pool is not associated with any creek or anything that has fish in it. This pool of water is full of insect larva. There are daphnia, mosquito larva, cyclops, blood worms, glass worms, fairy shrimp (look like gigantic brine shrimp), amphipods, isopods, volvox and other stuff I can't identify. The water is full of rotting leaves and is amber colored so I assume it is fairly acid. I also threw in a bunch of rotting leaves from the stagnant pool into the tank to give the female places to hide. She needed them, because for the first five days the male chased her all over the tank. I could usually find her hiding under a leaf and eating baby isopods, getting fat. Yesterday morning she looked a bit yellowish, much different than brownish with light vertical bands that she had been wearing. In the afternoon and evening I couldn't find her, but the male was out in front alot. Today the male is hiding under leaves. And I have seen only once since yesterday when for a moment when she emerged from a cave, and chased the male away. She was very yellow. I hope this is good news, and that she is guarding eggs. But neither yesterday or today have I seen any sign of an ovipositor or breeding tube on either one. She was skinny 7 days ago, and rounded yesterday. Could she have developed eggs inside her in just a few days? Or could this just be some sort of rehearsal? I guess I will just wait and see. I don't think guppies would be having offspring 7 days home from the pet store. Daniel Harnden ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!