Are there any other pertensis fish like the A. orangesaum that are from the Upper Rio Orinoco area? I have some mystery Apistos from that area that lool a lot like A. orangesaum. Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!