When I got back into the hobby I picked up a few books and read all about the various diseases a fish can have. When I saw the worm pictures, it was a total gross-out and I hoped to h*ll I'd never end up with sick fish like the ones in the picture. Well, it happened. I had wild-caught apistos (cacatoides and agassizii) with worms hanging out of their butts! Bonus. By the time I got to the levamisole, I had destroyed all but one female who "showed" very late in the game, i.e had her for three months and had spawned twice. I used the formula available on the Krib (5ppm) or 5mg/litre into the water at a pH below 7. I contacted Janssen-Ortho, one of the manufacturers of this stuff for human consumption, and Ayerst who makes the veterinary supply. I had to re-treat my female about 4 times until she was cleaned out. The problem with the worm-business, is that by the time you see them hanging out of the fish, the fish may have lost it's appetite and won't eat medicated food especially. Picky little buggers are apistos. None of the youngsters has ever shown infection despite the fact that they lived with mom for three months and were never treated. There are people who have written on the Apisto list who say that Camallanus can spread from fish to fish. I would like to have some definitive answers to this question also. Perhaps someone can consult with a parasitologist working with aquaculturists. As to treament, make sure the pH is below 7 or the drug becomes de-activated. Don't use carbon filtration and do as close to a 100% water change after 24 hours as you can. Repeat the treatment after 4 days. That gets the cysts or whatever that were not affected by the drug at treatment #1 but have since "hatched". ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!