I also Keep my Apistos in well planted tanks. Because that's how I like them. Bare bottom tanks are a great way to bread fish especially when you have a large number of tanks or a fish room. However when the tanks are the focal point of the living room, Well my better half insists that the whole setup be visually pleasing to everyone, to include those heathens that don't keep fish :) So I keep plants also and I think my fish act better and look better for it. However it does increase the maintenance effort and the effort to capture any fish in the tank. you could try placing a small saucer in the females territory with a small layer of gravel in it. Than when you feed worms place a spare 1' clear tube in the tank with the end in the saucer drop the worms down the tube and they should sink to the saucer. this should concentrate the worms to the area for the youngsters. While I haven't tried Micro worms in this manner It did work well for me with Tubliflex worms. Just my two bits. Erick Jones -----Original Message----- From: Uneekwa I need advice on how to ensure that fry in a tank well planted get the microworms. I have removed the Pl*cos and left four Ottocats in the tank with the Nijenssi. I have observed the older Ottos eating the frozen brine shrimps at the bottom of the tank. I want to make sure that the fry get the majority of the worms. I also noticed that I have more fry than I thought from the April 27th spawn. At least 10-15. Why did the Nijenssi spawn so close together? The reason that I have these fish in well planted tank instead of a bare bottom is because initially I did not know that they would breed so easily. Secondly, I was trying to create their natural habitat. Francine in MD Fish - photography - genealogy ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!