I am hoping someone can point me in the direction that I must be missing. I have a pair of cacatuoides that are spawning every 14 to 21 days with anywhere from 40-75 fry. Unfortunately within the first 7-14 days only about 10-15 fry survive. I have been breeding many types of fish, other than apistos, with only a max. of a few deaths. The feedings are light and frequent and consist of microworms for the first couple of days followed with brine shrimp. The tank is clean with no rotting food. The water parameters are: pH of 7.0, GH of 140ppm, temp. 78F, nitrates, ammonia and nitrites are undectable. This is extremely frustrating since I have never had this problem before. Thanks in advance for the input. Graham Toronto ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!