I spent a large chunk of cash on a couple of rena air pumps (I think a 100 and a 400). I have found them to be much quieter than any of my other pumps and I own a tetratec deep ( I have been told that these seem not to be consistent when it comes to noise levels ), a whisper, a tetra luft, a dozen haggen pumps. The Rena's are louder than my 'silent one' water pump but quieter than the sound of the bubbles from an airstone bursting on the surface. In my bedroom I have it mounted on a large piece of sponge. The Rena pumps are definitely well into the realm of expensive though. I have not yet replaced diaphragms so I cannot yet comment on the durability or ease of replacement. The smaller pump is about a year old. I have occasionally resorted to the isolation method of making pumps quieter. Suspend the pump by a rubber band from the power cord, the rubber band needs to be replaced about twice per year. This will make even the loud brands perform quietly. Also, using some silicone and large diameter tubing, you can make an air reservoir to 'smooth' the air flow. I would try these methods first before spending a lot of cash. Hope this helps, Doug ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!