>>All I know is that they went bankrupt and owed a lot of back taxes to Uncle Sam.<< I wonder who owns the design. In this day and age of retro-fashion being 'in,' plus the actual quality of the product, I wonder if someone could make a go of it with the Silent Giant. Bill Vannerson McHenry, IL http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/william_vannerson ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!