Understandably so, we might be confusing A. sp. "Albertini/Rio Algodon" with A. sp. "Rio Algodon". Got to love the exporter's imagination. The description Mike has give is for the A. sp. "Albertini". Shortly after collecting the "Albertini" the fishermen found a second species that Victoriano Panduro is calling just Rio Algodon. I have yet to see this fish but hope to collect it later this year. Victoriano's son has told me that the first batch they received had only males but chances are that you'll find at least a few females. Julio ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!