I'd pass the airstone about 1.5" above them occassionally, this will give a slight upwards water current which should be akin to any natural mother fanning water movement. Four weeks ago I had a Njennsi 'first' spawn (parents about 4 months - male still in adolesent colouring), of which 30 or so are now about 0.4". During the 'eggs in wood time' the female would only visit the cave briefly about once per hour, but what she did then was out of sight and any behavoiur might not be the basis of a replicate artificial regime as it was the first spawn. -----Original Message----- From: Uneekwa [mailto:francinebethea@excite.com] Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 2:46 PM To: apisto@listbox.com Subject: Wrigglers!!! I appreciate all information on water conductivity and the meter. I will buy one very soon. However, I have questions that have to do with the fry as of this moment. As I said before, I removed a large piece of bogwood with at least 50 Njennsi eggs attached from the 30 gal. I placed it in a 2.5 gal tank with a hydro bio sponge and an airstone. The eggs were hanging verically. There are a few wrigglers still hanging and wriggling. Most have loosed and fallen to the bottom of the bare tank. There are definantly a lot wrigglers with bright red bellies! My question is, should I occasionally gently swish the water in their area to alleviate a chance of debris collecting on them? Or how else could I immitate the mother mouthing the wrigglers as I have seen her do? I imagine she is cleaning them when she does this. This newbie needs help! Francine in MD Francine in MD Fish - photography - genealogy _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!