On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Derek Wingert wrote: > Hello everyone, > Recently I acquired a fish as "Apistogramma ortmanni." Well, after > asking about the ID of the fish, I found two distinct alternate ID > possibilities... A. sp. Rotpunkt / Puerto Narino or A. steindachneri. Well, > after going through my Linke and Staeck book, I came to the conclusion that > it was *definitely* not Rotpunkt, and it sure didn't look like steindachneri > because my fish's fins were not lyrate, and all of my fish possessed a > distinct lateral bar with a spot (this was not present on the example in my > book). However, my fish seem to have spawned, and the presumed female > (turned yellow and is guarding a cave, not letting the "male" come near) and > the male turned slightly mother-of-pearlish and lost the entire lateral bar > (but not the spot). After going again to "TheKrib," I noticed that > one particular photo of a "female" absolutely, totally looked like mine. The > link is below. > http://www.thekrib.com/Apisto/A-steindachneri-fem.jpg Derek, I'm pretty much an imbecile when it comes to ID'ing apistos (which is why I never go anywhere without my walking Aqualog wife), but the one thing I remember about the steindachneri group (also including hippolytae -- featured currently on mystery.thekrib.com, and rupununi) is they all distinctly have that flank patch above the lateral line (rather than a spot directly on the line). I'd think you could use this clue to determine if you have steindachneri or not. - Erik (anxiously awaiting positive ID so I know which fish to file your article under. :) -- Erik Olson erik at thekrib dot com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!