Hi Vern, They were in a store here in New York. in the $40 range. I would have got them if i could have been sure they were a pair!!! Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!