Jason, In response to your question, I can't say that I recognized all of what David Soares sent to me this week and I have not had the time this week to verify (or to be accurate, "try to verify" :)) his shipment. In addition to other fish, David said that he sent me A. "Minima", A. "Pebas / Ampiyacu" and three new species: A. "Rio Xingu", A. "Angle-Spot" and a new red color form of A. elizabethae. I took a quick look at the fish in the store on Friday and spoke to David briefly and here's my take: With respect to the Rio Xingu variety, which I understand you think may be A. iniridae (and which are together in the same tank), I couldn't tell. You're right, it does look like iniridae because of the dark lateral line, but on the other hand, I couldn't see the ventral "slanting stripes" (Mayland & Bork) or a caudal blotch, and the lateral line, which is very broad and very dark, never fades despite the mood of the fish. As far as the name, it doesn't help any since there are other fish with the Rio Xingu appellation. The fish which were supposed to be iniridae were too young for me to ID. A. "Angle Spot" was IDed for me by David as having a blotch somewhere (sorry, I can't tell you where because I was interrupted in the office by a visitor - and of course, it had to be when David was explaining the origin of the name... sigh...). The one thing that I did remember and did check for was: when the fish gets excited the lateral line fades away and is replaced by four vertical stripes across the body. A. "Minima" - unfortunately, this was one of the fish that I did not really get a chance to look at or talk about. David did tell me that Minima is no longer the smallest apisto. Apparently, the hobby now has an apisto that is even smaller than Minima - or maybe it should be ex-Minima? As far as A. elizabethae - which was mis-ID'ed as A. agassizi and mis-priced at $45.99 for the pair(!) I took them home. In fact, after David told me what he had sent - I immediately left work to pick them up at the store. I figured they wouldn't do too well in the store, no one would be willing to pay what I would have had to charge and besides, there should be some perks to owning a store. As far as the mis-ID, I didn't yell at the guys too much, since the mis-ID was understandable (the fish were hiding & stressed & the lappets were not visible) and because they hadn't sold the fish... :). They are now housed in a 30 gallon tank that was -until last night- the spawning tank for my Pelv. taeniatus "Nigerian Red". I am finding that these fish are like little white elephants... every morning it's hold-my-breath-until-I-see-the-elizabethae-swimming-and-not-breathing-hard time... I will try to get some more information when I get a chance and I'll pass it along if it's interesting. Myongsu Kong Afishionado ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!