Thanks, Helen. I found an old bag and snagged the pleco with little trouble. Whew! The tank is established so there should be lots of little morsels for the fry to chew on. BBS at the office is going to be a potential problem. I really don't have a suitable place to run a hatchery. What other alternative foods would work. I have a vinager eel culture, would they be too small? Bill Vannerson McHenry, IL http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/william_vannerson ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!