Derek, You and Gareth both appear to have A. steindachneri. A. steindachneri is characterized by its moderately sized quasi trapezoid flank patch resting on the lateral band. The flank patch doesn't quite reach the dorsal fin. The narrow lateral band ends in front of a small irregularly shaped caudal spot. Males develop a slightly serrated dorsal fin and a double tipped gyrate caudal fin, but this isn't usually visible until it reaches 2" (5 cm) long. There are at least 2 different color forms in the wild, a blue/yellow one and a more rare (and nasty) all yellow form. A domestic form with an entirely blue body and bright red orange dorsal and caudal edging was originally classified as A. wicker. This name is no longer scientifically valid. This is one of the BIG species. I've had males grow to more than 4" (10 cm). Females always stay smaller, about 2 1/2" (6.5 cm). This is one of the easy species to breed. They can have spawns of over 150 fry. This is one of my favorite apistos. Mike Wise Derek Derek Wingert wrote: > Hello all, as you may know, I recently wrote a report on some fish > that spawned for me, but which I have not ID'd yet. I have constructed > a simple but useful web page with pictures to help in visually > identifying this fish. Everything is exlpained on the page, > so here we go... another ID contest! Your prize.... the honor of... > your own knowledge? Yeah I know, that's stupid. But PLEASE, > help me ID this apisto! > > The website is at: > > http://members.tripod.com/dwingert/apisto.html > > Take a look (and a guess!). Ignore that darn pop up window. > > Thanks all! > > -- Derek Wingert > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!