Bill, if you can feed bbs for 1-2 days, I am told that they quickly learn to take decapulsulated eggs. These are at least the nutritional equivalent of bbs because no nutrients have been expended in tissue formation. Vinager eels sounds good. If they are very tiny you may need to feed infusoria first, tho if it is a planted tank there may be enough infusoria already. Also, I would strongly consider leaving the parents in. In many cichlid species I have actually seen the parents feed the offspring. Has anyone observed this in New World dwarfs??? -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco mailto:gomberg@wcf.com The latest in CO2 news: http://www.wcf.com/co2iron Tropica MasterGrow in the USA: http://www.wcf.com/tropica ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!