Well I'll bite on first apisto spawning. It was around 5 years ago when I found a fellow club member was keeping several apistos and had some for sale. I ended up buying a pair of Apistogramma Cacatuoides and a pair of Nannacara Anomola. I set them up in 10 gallon tanks side by side, with a thin layer of gravel, 2 medium sized clay flower pots turned on their sides and each was powered by Whisper C power filters ( this was before I discovered hydro sponges) . I fed them mostly tetra bits, good tetra ruby flake food and live baby brine shrimp as their main diet foods. About a month goes by and I notice the female Cacatuoides was real bright yellow. She was about 1inch at this time, male was a double red color form ( father to all generations of Cacatuoides I still keep today) and was about 2 inches now. The next day the female was sitting under a clutch of bright red eggs around 40 or so in number. A few days later, they were wigglers now in the bottom of the flower pot, several days later they were up and swimming around. I left the fry which numbered an even 30 with the adults for around 1.5 months. Then I set up a new tank for the adults so they could spawn again. My water conditions were a pH of around 6.5, 60 ppm hardness and a temperature around 78 F. When the fry grew out I ended up with 26 males and 4 females, I was happy that I had 4 females and set up 2 pairs from this batch of fry to continue as my breeding stock. I was the happiest little camper at my clubs annual auction when I sold my first 2 pairs of Cacatuoides. I don't remember what I got for them but I was happy that people kept looking at MY fish. That first batch of fry got me hooked into apistos. I since then have spawned around 17 different species. I'm hooked on these little guys forever. I don't know what right or wrong things I did, as far as I'm concerned I did things right because I ended up with fry. Sorry for rambling on so long. John Wubbolt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!