That's great if you have tons of flower pots and steal all the eggs. Not enough room even in a 150 to let the parents guard the fry. Someone is bound to think the fry are lunch. With one male and 4 females in a 20 long I get tons of fry and have a flower pot for each fish. With this set up there was always someone guarding a clutch of eggs or wigglers. I just removed the wigglers and replaced the flower pot with a new one. Within a few weeks she was ready to spawn again. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!