John, I have a spawning pair of 4 stripes, I say spawning as they often do but alas no resulting fry has resulted so far. Female does turn yellow, possibly not quite as bright as other apisto's. My pair are housed in a 24x12x12 tank sharing with six very young Sturisoma aureum and four Endlers guppies. Ken Laidlaw has had success with this species but he is in Hawii at the moment. Ken if you are out there pretending to be working you could help John on this. Helen >> I don't have an dither fish in the tank, should I add some? They are of spawning size but I haven't seen the female turn even the slightest hint of yellow yet. Is this normal or am I doing something wrong here. Any help would be great as I really love the fins and looks of these guys. Thanks John Wubbolt<< ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!