Peter, My experience with A. bitaeniata has been similar, but never to the extent that yours is. I always had more success with old males (2+ years old) and younger females. They seem to slow down considerably and become more mellow with age. If I had your "rogue", I'd stick him in a tank by himself and try a different male. If he is really special and colorful I would wait until he was "over the hill", age wise, before trying to breed him. Mike Wise plasticolor@guate.net wrote: > I have a pair of A. bitaeniata with a similar male. After killing another > male, 3 females and 4 mollies in one weekend he has never attempted to > breed with the single female left. I tried several suggestions from > listmembers, such as adding another young male and other females (from > different species), more dithers, and had to remove all of them within a > few hours to avoid more losses. He tolerates the female because there are > lots of hiding places for her, but thatīs it. > A few months ago I removed the female for two weeks and placed her back in > the tank. After a few minutes of courtship she went into shock coloration > and he lost interest. Large water changes, pH=5.8, soft water and low > conductivity are not doing anything. > Would it make sense to remove the male, re-arrange the tank and move him > back into Her territory after a few weeks ? Are there other suggestions to > induce breeding ? > > Thanks > > Peter > plasticolor@guate.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!