John wrote: >I have to agree on the aggression level of the Atahualpa's. I tried a >trio in a 20 long with lots of flower pots, Java Moss and a few Java >ferns. >The male staked out the middle flower pot and tore apart one of the >females. After adding a trio of Diamond Tetras it gave the male >something to chase instead of killing the other female. The male is >now around 3 Inches long and nasty. I really don't ever expect this >pair to spawn. I have a pair of A. bitaeniata with a similar male. After killing another male, 3 females and 4 mollies in one weekend he has never attempted to breed with the single female left. I tried several suggestions from listmembers, such as adding another young male and other females (from different species), more dithers, and had to remove all of them within a few hours to avoid more losses. He tolerates the female because there are lots of hiding places for her, but thatīs it. A few months ago I removed the female for two weeks and placed her back in the tank. After a few minutes of courtship she went into shock coloration and he lost interest. Large water changes, pH=5.8, soft water and low conductivity are not doing anything. Would it make sense to remove the male, re-arrange the tank and move him back into Her territory after a few weeks ? Are there other suggestions to induce breeding ? Thanks Peter plasticolor@guate.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!