Re: Typical M. Ramirezi & Gold Ram

["S. Bunch" <sherry_bunch@hotmail.com>]

Well, these particular fish are not an issue anymore. :( Two died in two
days, a third didn't have too much time left, so I took the sick one and the
last surviving one back to the store before the guarantee wore off.

One of them was sick when I got it home (the gold one that I hadn't wanted
to begin with). I medicated for gill parasites, which is the only diagnosis
I could find for the hard breathing and swollen gills they were showing. It
didn't seem to be helping though. I thought maybe I was contributing to it,
so I checked my water quality. Ammonia, Nitrates, Nitrites all at "0". PH
6.8, Total hardness <10. The danios I had in the tank for the past month
were still doing fine and still show no signs of sickness. Then when I took
the rams back to the store, the remaining couple in their tank were acting
the same way. I felt better about my care of them, but I still felt sorry
for all of the fish that died due to this fish store. I've learned my lesson
and won't buy fish from this store anymore at any time.

This is a very interesting subject though about the crossbreeding between
the blues and golds. You say the first few generations aren't very pretty
though. What do you do with the fry? Are you able to sell the excess that
you don't need for breeding?

Sherry

----- Original Message -----
From: joel and angie wasdyke <joel_ang@visi.com>
To: <apisto@admin.listbox.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: Typical M. Ramirezi & Gold Ram


: Actually, there are starting to be some very good golds coming out of
: Florida.  I have been spawning golds from there for three generations now.
: The real problem with them is that there is no new blood to work into the
: bloodline.  I just crossed a female from the blue line I have been working
: with for 8 generations (6 generations included new blood from Europe, the
: States and wild) with a very nice gold male.  In about 3-4 generations I
: should have the blue out of fish.  The blue/gold cross is not a very nice
: looking fish.  As far as them spawning goes, I have found that golds
prefer
: golds and blues prefer blues. The only way I got the cross was to put one
of
: each in the tank.
:
: Joel WasDyke
:
:
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