Re: Typical M. Ramirezi & Gold Ram

["S. Bunch" <sherryb@hpcisp.com>]

Lee,

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll see if I can't find some of the Paragon just
to have it on hand next time.

Bob,

Yeah, I thought about it afterward that I should have at least checked the
water in the bag before I started acclimatizing the fish, but I was short on
time when I got them and forgot about it at the time. I guess I'm too used
to buying African Cichlids, which seem to be able to live through about
anything, for at least a short time.

Unfortunately, I guess this store is used to getting fish back on their
guarantee. They didn't even bother to question me about the fish's sickness
or my water quality. Just handed my money back. :(

Sherry

----- Original Message -----
From: <IDMiamiBob@aol.com>
To: <apisto@admin.listbox.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: Typical M. Ramirezi & Gold Ram


: Sherry writes:
:
: >  Well, these particular fish are not an issue anymore. :( Two died in
two
: >  days, a third didn't have too much time left, so I took the sick one
and
: the
: >  last surviving one back to the store before the guarantee wore off.
: >
: >  One of them was sick when I got it home (the gold one that I hadn't
wanted
: >  to begin with). I medicated for gill parasites, which is the only
diagnosis
: >  I could find for the hard breathing and swollen gills they were
showing.
:
: Sounds like ammonia poisoning to me.  The ammonia will burn the gills, and
: then they swell, and the fish has to pump more water through the gills to
try
: to get enough O2 transfer through whatever good gill tissue may remain.
Next
: time you're there, you might see if they will let you test THEIR water for
pH
: and ammonia.  I'll bet they are both high.  I recommend you not buy fish
: there again unless you first test their water.
:
: > It
: >  didn't seem to be helping though.<snip>>
:
: If is is indeed ammonia damage, it is permament, and the most humane
: treatment is to put the fish in the freezer.
:
: >  This is a very interesting subject though about the crossbreeding
between
: >  the blues and golds. You say the first few generations aren't very
pretty
: >  though. What do you do with the fry? Are you able to sell the excess
that
: >  you don't need for breeding?
:
: I would make a cute remark here about Oscars, but the more politically
: correct among us would perhaps get their feathers in a ruffle.
:
: Bob Dixon
: Cichlid Trader List Administrator
:
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