Congrats Jay Guess you won't be needing that male ram after all. I wouldn't move the pair, I would try to catch everything else and move them out of the tank. Leave the pair with the fry as long as possible and if they start munching on the fry then move them out of the tank too. But they should be pretty good parents. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!