>If it has a lateral spot it can't be a regani-group fish (like A. cruzi, regani, >etc.) You are right on that. Looking closer at the fish, the lateral band is just broader at mid-body, giving the impression of an underlying lateral spot. But the shape doesnīt change with mood. > >The body shape and present fin shapes point to an ancestral form of apisto >(regani-, steindachneri-, Rotpunkt-, & macmasteri-groups). The only species >within these groups that have lateral spots belong to the steindachneri-group (A. >steindachneri, A. rupununi, A. hippolytae, A. sp. Rio Preto & and possibly A. >sp. Erdfresser). All of the species in this group, however, have caudal spots and >some sort of pattern on the caudal fin. The patterned tail on A. hippolytae often >is not very distinct. Maybe it's this fish. Otherwise it sounds like a member of >the regani-complex without a patterned tail (A. gossei, A. geisleri (some), A. >sp. Amapá, etc.). It might help to learn what other fish came with them. I donīt think itīs A. hippolytae. The body is not as high-backed and it lacks the large blotch above the lateral band. The color is almost identical to A. Sp. Gabelband, except that the ventral stripes donīt touch the lateral band. These fish came together with A. eunotus, A. norberti and A. pucallpaensis, so I guess they came from around the area where the Maraņon joins the Ucayali (?) Thanks a lot Mike. I hope this helps. Peter ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!