Mike Wise I hear you mention DATZ everyonce in awhile. I know it's either German or Dutch, but how does one go about getting a subscription to it. I'm always interested in anything Cichlid wise that will have stuff on Dwarf cichlids in it. Any info would be great. John Wubbolt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!