Hi gang, I was reading through Linke & Staeck's book "Cichlids from West Africa" when I happened upon an interesting topic. You guessed it, substrate bacteria. On page 124 the authors recommend "sub-soil heating" to insure water movement up from the substrate and avoid a build up of bacteria that will threaten the lives of the larvae. I am assuming they are referring to the wrigglers. This is recommend for all substratum & cave spawning cichlids. I have never used cable heating in the substrate before, but I have questioned the need for and amount of water movement necessary in the tank. Anyone got any thoughts? Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!