I'm looking for advice on spawning blue rams. I have a very fine and healthy looking pair, still quite young but hopefully big enough now to breed. They've been in a community tank and have now been installed in a 30 inch heavily planted tank with plenty of upright stone and eight pencilfish as dithers. Parameters are RO water cut with a dash of tap, pH 7, KH 1, GH 1, zero nasties, 26 degrees C. They are being fed mosquito larva and daphnia from my fish-free pond. The male has spectacular colour and the female has developed a pink belly. So all should be about right. The male is looking interested, doing a bit of waggling and hanging around - but nothing yet as fancy as the courtship displays I have seen in my macmasteri and bolivian rams when they are in the mood. (Following on from some earlier posts, my female bolivian had the trick of grabbing the male by the pectoral fin and dragging him towards the breeding spot!) My main question is should I adjust the temperature and pH - and does peat help? Some sources I have seen have suggested a low pH while others say 7 should be OK. Likewise temperature recommendations vary. I'm also a little unsure about the correct size for breeding. Size has seemed a little immaterial for my other dwarfs. Do blue rams get as big as bolivians? Then if they do spawn, do most people leave the parents together as a pair or routinely yank the male? And do you take out the male immediately or wait until the fry hatch? Cheers --------------------------------------------------------------- from: John McCrone -- science writer mailto: j.mccrone@btinternet.com web site: http://www.btinternet.com/~neuronaut/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!