In a message dated 9/23/1999 9:23:49 AM Mountain Daylight Time, edpon@hotmail.com writes: > From what I remember of Romer's study, sex is not determined immediately, > but can be skewed some time after hatching by the ph and temperature. It is flexible for approx. 200 hours, but I can't remember whether that is post-spawn or post-hatch. > I don't know if there is any information in how long the fry need to be > subjected to a given temperature and ph and at what age to affect the sex > ratios. If you change temp or pH during the 200 hour "window", the ratio will scew in a sort of pro-rated manner, based on time spent at every pH and temp in the time frame available. So to some extent, it is affected by periods of 15 minutes or less at a given pH/temp. But the figures for the ratios work best over a large number of spawns. IME, a given spawn at the right temp/pH for a 50/50 ratio can go as far as 90/10 in either direction. My recent experience with cacatoides has been that under <measureably> identical conditions, the same pair of fish will produce heavily female spawns for a month, then heavily male spawns for the next month. At the end of for months of spawning, I have a whole lot of fry, but about a 50/50 mix. It's frustrating at best, but somehow still fun. Bob Dixon Cichlid Trader List Administrator http://cichlidtrader.listbot.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!