So much good advice to sort through! :) First, in defense of my LFS, this guy is what you would call "overly optimistic" in just about all instances. As he usually has good quality livestock and supplies, I've learned to listen and then research for myself usually. Unfortunately, with no cases of ich in my fish for so long, it caught me off guard. Anyway, I had started using the Wardley medicine last night as I didn't know what else to do, and figured it was better than nothing to get on top of this problem ASAP. The danios are still acting fine, but the death count on my Rams is up to three of the six. The remaining three look pretty good still. One is breathing just a slight bit hard, but not so bad that he shouldn't survive this. I wasn't worried about the danios enough to put the Rams into a seperate quarantine tank. The danios were mainly to keep the tank going while I was waiting on the Rams. At 50cents each and a pretty hardy fish, I figured the danios were a good bet. Now, as I said I have already used the Wardleys, which not too many of you were very impressed with. Although no one mentioned it, I have always been pretty well pleased with the Jungle products, so I bought some of their Ich Guard today. I was looking for some of the "Quick Cure" but the place I stopped at was out of it. As I'm not real sure of the Wardley medication I've used, I thought that perhaps if I do about a 75% water change, I would be able re-medicate with the Ich Guard. Does anyone see a problem with this approach? Thanks all! Sherry ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!