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Re: RE: Fishwall
On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:24:06 -0400, Barry, Don wrote:
Thanks Don,
Are you telling me that if I use 2x6's for the horizontal members of the
shelves that I would not need a vertical support in the center? That would
be what I would prefer, but wouldn't the shelves sag eventually?
There is one thing that I will do and that is attach a horizontal board on
the wall behind the stand. The wall is block with drywall. I figure I
could affix this board to the block with Tapcon screws and then bolt the top
of the stand to it.
I have been looking at a lot of sites that have pictures of fishrooms and
walls and I am baffled at how people have so many tanks on 2x4 stands. I
think 2x4 stands painted white are asthetically pleasing. I wish that
people would or could post an article somewhere about how they went about
setting up and building their fishrooms...something like Erik's article.
Photos would be good, too.
Everyone's advice is appreciated. Just think, I still have to figure out
how to move fry, tanks, plants, water.....
Francine,
> What fun!
>
> It sounds to me that you are on the right track, so I'll just add a
couple
> of thoughts.
>
> I assume you've thought about the floor loading since we've covered that
> subject before.
>
> Strength of vertical members is limited by slenderness in the narrowest
> dimension of the cross section. 4x4's are better than 2x6's for vertical
> members.
>
> Strength of horizontal members is limited by the depth. 2x6's are better
> than 4x4's in the horizontal applications. Unless you are going to have
an
> intermediate vertical support at mid span, you probably want at least 2x6
> depth for the 9' span.
>
> Finally, don't forget about lateral support, that is the sideways force
that
> would be applied as if someone were pushing on it. Don't just rely on
the
> rigidity of the joints. Some effective ways of accomplishing this are
cross
> bracing, a solid back of at least 12-18" of depth or attachment to the
wall.
>
>
> I hope this is of some use.
> Good luck.
> Don Barry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fbethea [mailto:francinebethea@excite.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 9:14 AM
> To: apisto@listbox.com
> Subject: Fishwall
>
>
> Hi,
> I will have an opportunity to have a fishroom very soon. I am drawing up
> plans for a stand that will hold 5 10 gallon tanks on the top row, 4 20
> gallon tanks, on the second row and a 20 gallon long, a 10 gallon and a
30
> gallon on the bottom row. Underneath the bottom row, I intend to build
two
> drawers to hold supplies. The entire stand will be approx 9'-3" long and
> 5'-8" tall. The shelving will be 14 inches wide with cross members 16"
on
> center.
> My first draft called for 4x4 vertical end members with 2x4's with cleats
> for the center supports. The 4x4's will be notched and bolted with
carriage
> bolts to hold the shelves. I will be using 1/4 plywood to cover the
> shelving since the tanks will rest on the shelves edges.
>
> My second draft called for the use of 2x6 vertical members and 2x4's with
> cleats for the center supports. Everything else will be the same.
>
> Is the first draft with the 4x4's overkill?
> Will the second draft design have to be attached to the wall at the top?
> Will I have to secure the 2x6's at the bottom as well?
>
> I am sorry that this letter was as long as it is, but I am excited about
> this project and going nuts as well. I think I am to close to it and I
need
> outside and objective views on the matter.
>
> Thank you in advance,
> Francine in MD
> Fish - photography - genealogy
>
>
>
>
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