In a message dated 10/27/1999 8:53:18 AM Mountain Daylight Time, William_Vannerson@ama-assn.org writes: > FWIW, One of my Killie club friends, Brad Higgins, uses a thick layer of > sphagnum moss as a substrate for his 'natural' setups. Sphagnum moss is the > dried live plants as apposed to the decaying mulm that is peat. It can be > found at Franks nursery and other similar stores as it is used for potting > orchids and such. Is this the sphagnum while it is still kind of greenish-yellow, or is it dead to the point of turning brown? Can your friend tell us anything about whether sphagnum will affect pH the way peat does? I know that live sphagnum tends to acidify the soil as part of its natural survival technique. How often does he change the moss? > > He uses a 10 gallon tank with a thick layer 4-5 inches of sphagnum. You > need to let it sit a few days. You will see a white haze develop, this is a > bacterial bloom. Once this disappears, it is safe to add the fish. He also > adds a good layer of Nijas or similar plant in a layer across the top. This sounds like a neat idea. Adapting it to Apistos means working in some way to create cave structures above the moss. Perhaps this is where a good selection of aged driftwood might be useful. Bob Dixon Cichlid Trader List Administrator http://cichlidtrader.listbot.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!