since we are reminiscing of apistos past...- when I was in high school I used to work for a tropical fish store and take weekly trips to the wholesaler to pick up new stock- next to dipnetting the Amazon- the funnest place to explore for apistos. Periodically, they'd get in blue tetras from Colombia- and once three emaciated macmasteri group fish were found cowering in the corners of the bare tank. I took those home and reared them up to size- developing into an amazing strain of A. macmasteri- very large, beautiful male with a striking red head, yellow wedge caudal with the top and bottom edges trimmed in red. They may have been viejita I'm not sure- when Brian Wolinski came over to see them he said they were the best macmasteri he'd ever seen...now that was a fish. Steven J. Waldron http://WWW.ANURA.ORG "Natural History, Captive Husbandry, Conservation and Biophilia of Tropical Frogs" ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!