Scot, I know of no one doing DNA work on apistos. Kullander had a graduate student considering this project about 5 years ago, but apparently it didn't happen. The major problem is supplying the needed material. From what I understand it would require going to the type localities to collect new material. This is because most type material is either too old to retrieve reliable DNA or was fixed in formalin before being preserve in ethanol. It seems that formalin destroys DNA for research purposes. Then think of the number of DNA tests that would be needed. Koslowski presently recognizes over 150 different species. Add to this the many different color forms or populations of these species and you can see the process would be very expensive. If this is ever started, I'd expect that it would be done only on a single species-group at a time. Right now the scientific community doesn't see a lot of need to do such work on such a large (number-wise) genus. If anything such work would be done on "end-species" that show links to other fish genera (steindachneri-group to Gymnogeophagus, A. elizabethae to A. (Taeniacara) candidi and commbrae-group species to A. (Apistogrammoides) pucallpaensis). If I had a voice in it, I'd suggest trying to find the links between the personata-, trifasciata- and cacatuoides-groups/complexs. Mike Wise Scot Gillespie wrote: > On a more apisto point, do you know of anyone doing any DNA work on our > dwarf finned relatives ;-) > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > >For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > >email apisto-request@listbox.com. > >Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List > Archives"! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- > Aye Net WebMail 2.0 > http://www.aye.net/getmail > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List > Archives"! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!