In my last group of all males :-( I got one with the blues lips I have ever seen. I'm not talking dark blue like his father's, I mean bright baby blue. This color developed in my parents' tank - I gave him to them before he colored up. He's gorgeous! My 2 cents Jason Miller Sherwood Park, AB Canada ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!