Ken If I'm not mistaken at one time both of these fish were or possibly are in the same genus. where and why they may have changed well you know how we love to reclassify things ;). Erick -----Original Message----- From: Ken Laidlaw [mailto:kl@roe.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 8:27 AM To: 'apisto@majordomo.pobox.com' Subject: RE: D.maculatus Mmm, isn't it Crenicara punctulata that is known for the sex change? Maybe D.maculatus does also. Anyone any further info on this? Ken. -----Original Message----- From: Jones, Erick [mailto:JonesE@CommercePath.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 16:24 To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com Subject: RE: D.maculatus I've heard that D. Maculatus is one of the few freshwater species that can actually change sex dependent on presence of males. Much like many saltwater species do, the change is male to female. So you may try pulling the males as they develop to see if you get a higher percentage. No proof it is just what I've heard from reputable sources. Erick Jones -----Original Message----- From: Randy & Deb Carey [mailto:carey@spacestar.net] Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 4:47 PM To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com Subject: Re: D.maculatus I don't recall the age, but I do remember that it took a while. Both Julio and I have been having a very hight female ratio. I once thought I had 9 females to every male. However, it seems that some males are subdominant. When I remove the obvious male, another fish might take his place as the obvious male in the tank. But if the fry are only 3 months old, I wouldn't panic...yet. I can see it taking 5 months or so before any males emerge. I'm pretty sure that they were well over an inch before showing. (Next time, I'll have to document growth with photos.) --Randy Ken Laidlaw wrote: > Hi All, > > Does anyone know at what age/size D.maculatus begin to show the difference > between males and females. My friend spawned them in August and they are > now approx 0.75"TL. All 18 still look like females with clear tails. They > were spawned in de-ionised water with pH~5. > > Thanks, > Ken. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!